Trunks on coupes are stupid. 

"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo) 03/25/2015 at 04:21 • Filed to: None

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Why do automakers insist on making car with tiny little trunks when they could be making lift-backs.

Genesis coupe

2014 mustang'

2015 Mustang

RSX

Mustang Fox

They even work on sedans

But seriously liftbacks are so much more useful, tiny truck openings are a PITA.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 04:34

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lift backs are generally heavier and less rigid, also sell less compared to sedans. People who want a the luggage space will get a hatch or a wagon/suv.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 03/25/2015 at 04:54

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but the foxbody hatch sold better than the notch backs.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 05:04

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the exception that proves the rule. I never said the automakers were correct :P

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 06:40

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I just wish they made the tail-lights part of the truck so you don't get those crappy bulges for the lights, like your second photo.

ToyDeathbot > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 06:58

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I agree

Thunderface > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 07:25

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That's not a 2014 Mustang, but I see your point

Mike > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 07:32

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In my experience, people seem to think that "hatch" is a four-letter word. No idea why, but a lot of Americans seem to associate "hatchback" with "cheap". Which is a shame, because I much prefer hatches.

yamahog > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 03/25/2015 at 07:44

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Can't, it's a safety thing. If you're on the side of the road rummaging through your trunk for the tire iron in the middle of the night, it's harder for someone passing to see you if your taillights are on your trunk and therefore pointing up when your trunk is open, especially if you're standing in such a way that the CHMSL is blocked as well.

yamahog > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 07:46

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Corvette managed it:

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 08:02

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Um, thats a 2005-09 V6 Mustang

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 08:16

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Welcome to my world.

Coupes aren't a big seller, but I have a feeling, with some added practicality of a hatch, and genuinely attractive design, and perhaps a nice AWD system with a manual gearbox option, like say Focus RS's drivetrain, or WRX STI's drivetrain... I think they could be more popular than they are.

The trunk lid argument is exactly the same argument I make as to why Sedans are getting diminished to a body style that is solely sold on tradition anymore, not so much on actual advantage, as CUVs have practical advantages over sedans, with very little margin for dis-advantage, and it is no wonder why the CUV market is growing, and the sedan market is languishing, in terms of people buying multi-passenger vehicles.

However, for vehicles with fewer regular passengers, sporty coupes with versatile hatches could make great weekend fun-driving cars, commuters that are both fun and space efficient, and generally great 'second cars' to the family CUV/minivan/truckster.

NotUnlessRoundIsFunny > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 03/25/2015 at 08:55

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The closest are probably the Audi SUVs, where the tail lights go with the hatch. They also have bit reflectors / lights (?) on the rear bumper, so I guess that addresses the safety issue.

Milky > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 09:27

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Hatch FTW! Or loss, idk.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Mike 03/25/2015 at 10:43

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I seriously don't get it. It seems to be a Baby Boomer thing. My mom thinks every hatchback looks like a Gremlin. And then my parents complain about lack of trunk space...

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 03/25/2015 at 11:36

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thats because they remember when trunks were trunks, and sedans were glad of it.

look at this thing at's like 4ftx4ft

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > yamahog 03/25/2015 at 11:40

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my point exactly. To me the hatch is one of the Vettes selling points. Because it's easier to trow you golf bags in than, slide them in threw a tiny trunk.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 03/25/2015 at 11:41

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Oh yeah it is. lol didn't even notice. my GIS was "2014 mustang trunk open".

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Milky 03/25/2015 at 11:41

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still better than if they had tried to hive it a trunk!

yamahog > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 13:02

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It's all dependent on the studio design though. If they don't want that type of roofline in their theme, you're not getting a hatch, and most people don't want one enough to justify the tradeoffs.

Mike > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M 03/25/2015 at 13:41

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Hell, I get openly mocked by my parents because I went out of my way to get a Mazda3 hatchback instead of the sedan. Yes, I apologize for wanting something that is both more practical and more attractive....

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > yamahog 03/25/2015 at 16:38

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you can have a car that looks exactly like s coupe but still has a lift back done right it makes almost o impact on tye exterior design. And "fastback" coupes like the Genesis and Mustang are prime examples of a wasted opportunity.

yamahog > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 16:53

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Actually, it would have a huge impact to both the interior and exterior, and most customers do not value it enough to be worth the tradeoffs (likely price increase). Them's the breaks.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > yamahog 03/25/2015 at 20:04

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It doesn't have to impact the exterior styling. For the example the Mazda6

regular sedan

Liftback

Almost no difference. Maybe some lost rear visibility.

yamahog > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/25/2015 at 22:06

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It greatly affects the cut lines, which by definition affects styling and increases complexity. There's a reason they don't do this any more.

Svend > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/28/2015 at 00:26

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That's the genius of the Skoda Superb Twindoor. Both a saloon and a hatch.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Svend 03/28/2015 at 00:31

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but when you ever need to not open the hatch?

Svend > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/28/2015 at 00:41

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In saloon guise the opening is regular coupe/saloon size for putting odds and ends in, but when opening as a hatch dramatically increases the area for you to put say large amounts of shopping in or putting in larger items.

It's why so many are taxis where I live because for the light shopper with one or two bags you can quickly open the tailgate and put in the bags and go while the larger shopper you can open it fully you can organise and stow the shopping more securely.